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Reminder: Marines, BLM Public Meeting Re Johnson Valley Access, May 7th in Yucca Valley

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Yucca Valley, Ca.,- Representatives from the Marine Corp and the U.S. Bureau of Land Management will host an information meeting about upcoming changes in land use in the Johnson Valley area 6-8 PM, Wednesday, May 7, 2014 at the Yucca Valley Community Center located at 57090 Twentynine Palms Highway, Yucca Valley.

The Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center at Twentynine Palms is expanding into the 188,000 acre national offroading area in Johnson Valley, taking over about 188,130 acres for training exercises.  It will also get  to use an additional 56,439 acres of public land for the exercises that will occur twice a year.

For more information, contact the Combat Center’s Public Affairs Office, (760) 830-6213 or by email at SMBPLMSWEBPAO@usmc.mil; or the Bureau of Land Management, Barstow Field Manager, (760) 252-6200 or by email at ksymons@blm.gov

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10 Comments

  1. Dan OBrien Dan OBrien says:

    Bend over OHV Community the Soup is on its way…..

  2. michaelv michaelv says:

    We read weekly how there are going to be cut backs in the size of the military branches, if that is the case, why is it that the Marine Corps needs more training area? Word has been spreading for several years that construction was going to be grinding to a halt on the base and the scale back would be felt on the base as well. So can someone tell me why they need another 188,000 acres of training area? Sometimes I think they do it because they are the neighborhood bully and they just take what they want and who cares about the citizens. Look at all the businesses that were opened on the base that could have been opened in 29 Palms so that the residents could enjoy as well, but no, not happening. I wonder how many Marines from the base are going to become patrons of the performing arts when the new PP is ever built??

    • The federal government owns 45.3 percent of all lands in California according to the U.S. Services Administration. The base is currently home to one of the largest military training areas in the nation, and they want more? The military doesn’t comprehend or abide by the word: “NO”

      Paul Cook ought to have said NO. The Combat Center occupies 932 square miles, or 596,000 acres

      The terrain is consistent with steeply-sloped mountains and flat valleys running northwest-southeast, with elevations ranging from 1,800 to 4,500 feet (1,400 m) above sea level. The training area is also characterized with ancient lava flows, as well as dry lake beds and arroyos (or wadis) that fill quickly during rain, presenting the danger of powerful floods and washouts that can move armored vehicles. Many abandoned mines dot the terrain, as well as unexploded ordnance and shrapnel, making unauthorized travel in the training areas dangerous.
      MCAGCChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Corps_Air_Ground_Combat_Center_Twentynine_Palms

    • Mark Clemons Mark Clemons says:

      Do not understand the problem, the city of 29 annexes the base main side no one cares, the base annexes Johnson valley and you hypocrites cry a river. What gives?

      The sad thing is there is a minority of legal 29 citizens that are banned from going to many of the new businesses that have opened in annexed area of 29, and I personally find that very troubling. We now have two classes of citizens one class produces the nations GNP one class consumes the GNP guess what class is forbidding from new businesses. Where else is a military base in the city limits that restrict access to their citizens, why do those of us that are footing the cost of much of their security sheriffs, fire, etc. targeted to be a sub-citizen. There is something seriously wrong in 29 much more so than PP or a couple of bungling council members

      • Larry Briggs Larry Briggs says:

        There are several military bases in the country who have had their “mainside” annexed to the neighboring city. I think Oxnard is one of them. In our case it was done in order to get the gas tax from the PX gas station for repairs to the city roads that the base personnel were driving over. Jim Hart, former city manager, was the one who got the agreement done.

        • michaelv michaelv says:

          Well obviously that hasn’t worked out to well. The city streets are in horrible condition, although I have to say they did resurface Adobe Rd, which is the main road onto the base. Once again, who cares about the remaining parts of the City, as long as the base gets their way, everything is good. I agree Mark, the annex should never have been allowed without stipulations that it would be opened to the general public. However, that being said, the citizens of 29 Palms never stood up to fight it. Presently there are 29 users online, but it is the same 5 or 6 who respond, why is that?

      • Mark, three seats are open on the city council.

        I have every reason to believe you should run again for one of the three seats. I also believe you will not jump on the BANDWAGON “To get along you go along.” Unlike the present faces on the council, I believe you care about infrastructure and will not cave in to the in crowd of wayward bastards that gets their way with public funds everytime. As well I think you would reign in frivolous spending.

        At least give it some thought.

        • michaelv michaelv says:

          Mark, thank you for your kind words. Unfortunately , for various reasons it was necessary for me to move. While I no longer reside in 29 Palms, I would love to see it grow and prosper. I am sure with the right people in the drivers seat that can be accomplished. For the foreseeable future 29 will never be a go to destination. That does not mean the residence should be treated like cannon fodder.
          Change will only happen when more people get involved. What I see that happens is that the favorite few are the ones greasing the wheel so they get what they want. There needs to be an all out uprising, phone calls, emails, attendance at council meetings, making complaints about the infrastructure of the City and the lack of fire protection. Until that happens, it will remain as is. I was at a friends home once and looked at photographs of 29 Palms from the 50′s. What a beautiful town it was. With hard work and a Council with a vision for the entire city it can be that way again. I will continue to place by views and opinions on this great site, and wish you all great success in the future elections.

          • Larry Briggs Larry Briggs says:

            I was stationed here from 1956 to 1958. Hwy 62 was a 2 lane highway. The town was smaller. When I came off base locals would tell me that the town was run by the 5 families. Sound familiar?

  3. michaelv michaelv says:

    At least the five families were smart enough to keep the outward appearances of a happy town. Right now it looks like no one cares about anything except themselves. Would the five let the fire department languish by the side of the road? Doubtful. I have rends who have lived in the City since then as well, and they have great memories of what it used to be. Sadly, there are not to many good memories to hold onto right now

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