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I had to register to be able to respond to MichaelV’s question about why so few people use this forum to get involved in local issues.

I was registered to comment here on Cactus Thorns years back but I quickly learned how certain persons will use a forum like this to attempt to intimidate you and to bring harm not only to you and your property, but also to those they believed were associated with you in one way or another. I thought it best to avoid getting involved in local issues any further when these people were looking to cause trouble and bring harm to people while some here – knowing full well what they were doing — posted comments clearly meant to encourage those who WOULD do harm others.

But that was in the past. I don’t see that happening anymore. I remained a regular visitor of Cactus Thorns and find it to be much more informative than the local papers or radio station which tend to serve as PR tools for those politicians and local leaders they can benefit from.

I recently became interested and involved in local politics and issues again after seeing for myself how unprofessional our Town Manager, his Deputy Town Manager, the Captain of the SBCSD and his Lieutenant could be. I learned how local and county political leaders, justice and law enforcement agencies and many of those whose job it is to SERVE the public were easily irritated and angered by anybody in the public that spoke out with an opinion or simply asked questions.

Because I dared to say that I was a witness to the arrest of a man who did not commit the crime he was arrested and charged for, and because I dared to ask local leaders and government agencies for help with this issue, I’ve become “one of them.”

Yep. “ONE OF THEM.”

That’s what I was called by a staff member of Congressman Cook when I attended a meet and greet for the Congressman here in town. I didn’t just show up at this meet and greet, it was an RSVP event and I let Cook staff member, Dawn Rowe, know I would be attending and she and other staffers were already aware of the issue I wanted to speak with the Congressman about.

Dawn Rowe was kind enough to try to introduce me to Cook’s District Director, Matt Knox, but he was having none of it. He stood two feet from us and completely ignored us. After some time I told Ms. Rowe that she could leave and I’d wait there for my chance to speak with Mr. Knox. When he realized I was going nowhere, I introduced myself and was met with “I know who you are. You’re one of them and I know what you’re up to.” He then demanded that I show him my cell phone, turn it on and prove to him that I was not recording anything he said to me.

I asked him “who are ‘them’?” and “what are ‘them’ are up to?” He refused to answer and made it clear that he was not going to speak to somebody that was sitting at the same table with people who were some of “them.” I told him that if that was the problem – who was sitting at the same table as my neighbor and I – that he should know I had never met or spoken to “them” until that very evening.

Because he refused to speak with me without being rude and nasty and because Congressman Cook visited each and every table to speak with those who attended but avoided the table I was sitting at – because “them” were sitting there, also – I approached Congressman Cook to speak with him about an issue I was concerned about. Mr. Knox saw this and rushed over to end the conversation before it began and again demanded that I turn on my phone and prove to him I was not recording anything.

To his credit, Congressman Cook did speak with me after first trying to walk away from me.

When I returned to my table I found my neighbor speaking with Yucca Valley Town Councilmember Dr. Lombardo and 29 Palms City Councilmember Harris. It took only a moment for Councilmember Harris to figure out who I was and to begin calling me a “lying piece of shit” to my face. I didn’t respond at all. I was too shocked to see all those local friends of Congressman Cook watch it happen and apparently think nothing of it. As Councilmember Harris walked away he stopped and turned towards me and screamed out loud in a maniacal wail – “You’re a lying piece of shit!”

THAT and more – THAT and WORSE – is what you can expect if you dare to get involved in local politics and local issues and you’re not part of the Cook / Mayes / Rowe / Nuaimi / Lombardo / Melland political and social clique.

themRecent incidents have made it very clear to me that they and those they associate with don’t want people who don’t bow down to them and agree with every word they speak and every move they make “involved” in their business … even though it’s the public’s business.

It’s somewhat amusing to me that, simply by getting involved in my town’s issues and the civil rights case of a man arrested in front of my home – in front of me – for a crime he didn’t commit, I’d be called “one of them.”

I know who the Cook / Mayes / Rowe / Nuaimi / Lombardo / Melland group and their loyal fans are referring to when they refer to somebody as “one of them.”

I’m not “one of them” … but I respect and admire “them” a great deal for putting so much time and effort into getting as much information out there as possible for the public to read and consider.

- See more at: http://www.vote29.com/newmyblog/archives/60607#comment-30857

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  1. I must be one of “Them.”

    I wrote about this same “Meet and Greet” and chose to use the name RD, instead of his full name, Robert Nelson, so as not to cause any undue “Themming” to an upstanding citizen who has always been trying to do the “right thing.”

    http://www.vote29.com/newmyblog/archives/57312

    I had never met Mr. Nelson before that meeting. Mr. Nelson had always declared in his comments made on HDS he does NOT belong to any group. The Yucca Valley “Bubble People” tried very hard to peg him into a category…”Naysayer”…now one of “Them.”

    It is a new era for Citizen Journalists with the electronic age of blogs, cell phones and the capabilities of such devices to record the audio and video of events as they unfold.

    Thank you Mr. Nelson for all that you are trying to do because it is the “right thing to do.” I hope you use this Forum to continue to shed light on the dangerous dirt road situation in your neighborhood where mothers push their babies in strollers unaware they are in a blind spot.

    Three of the four individuals involved in the incident videotaped by Mr. Nelson (The Accidental Witness) are gone. Mark Nuaimi was fired, Captain Boswell has retired and Lt. Toms has transferred out. The remaining bystander is Deputy Town Manager Shane Stueckle, who is a candidate for Town Manager.

    Here is the link:

    http://www.vote29.com/newmyblog/archives/48511

    PS. What would I answer if someone asks, “Are you one of us or one of them?” I guess it depends on whose is asking.

  2. michaelv michaelv says:

    Thank you Mr. Nelson for your response. Being one of “them” does present problems when you are living in a community where sides are formed and there is no room for anyone having a separate thought on a matter. I have lived in small communities most of my life and have seen the “us” and “them” frequently. It is sad when a person cannot respect an others opinion for what it is, but rather categorize that person into a “them”.
    Everything that I have watched unfold in both 29 Palms and Yucca Valley leads me to believe that the “them” better get control of the “us” before there is nothing for anyone. I am hoping that those who have been standing on the sidelines watching the Thorn will get on the field and take part in the game of life in a small town.

  3. Robert Nelson Robert Nelson says:

    Margo … it didn’t take long for me to figure out that the hatred and nastiness they – our local leaders and their fans – target you with is an ugly manifestation of their fear of the public becoming better informed. (For some, it’s their shameless reaction to quite literally being caught with their pants down.)

    Keep up the great work. Many of us do appreciate it.

  4. Claude Short Claude Short says:

    Hey Mr. Nelson! Thank you for this story. It shows the disdain for those of us who are proud members of “Them!” The door’s always open if you want to join our “Group!”

    BTW- For those of you who remember me- I will be installing my alternate system and becoming “Exempt” from the local sewer fiasco, very soon. I’ll post updates as I go along on my website: ElectClaudeShort.com

  5. Robert Nelson Robert Nelson says:

    I forgot to mention that the Town Council and their attorney allowed Town Manager Mark Nuaimi to use the Town’s official website to slam me and call me a liar. It shows how low Nuaimi and his cowardly cohorts on the Town Staff and Council can go.

    What’s interesting about Mr. Nuaimi’s comments about the incident in front of my home is that he corroborates the statement that I gave the deputy at the time of the incident – that the bike rider did not attempt to run anybody over as he was arrested and charged for doing, but rather moved to avoid us (“In fact, the motorcyclist attempted to drive past the Captain & Lieutenant…” Nuaimi says in the statement.)

    And … anybody who has viewed the photos and videos of the incident (which I made public and available to all law enforcement and justice departments involved) can see the Mr. Nuaimi’s account of the arrest – saying the biker did “… attempt to flee, and then be taken to the ground and arrested” – is not true. That is a complete and total fabrication and Mr. Stueckle, Captain Boswell and Lieutenant Toms KNOW that it is not true. You have to wonder what Nuaimi and Stueckle said in their statements about the incident given to the SBCSD.

    Knowing that our Town Council and their attorney did nothing about this incident involving the Town’s Chief of Police, Town Manager and Deputy Town Manager … and that other county agencies tasked with dealing with this case have refused to consider the evidence … that should scare everybody in Town. We don’t have local Town officials, law enforcement or justice departments that we can count on to be honest and uncorrupt.

    But I guess that’s why we have the Attorney General’s office and the Grand Jury.

    Video and photos of the incident
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XX3hdeBB1Q

    ———————————————–
    Town Manager Update
    August 2, 2013

    Setting The Record Straight – Over the past several months, there has been this legend perpetuated in the community about an incident on Linda Lee involving two representatives from the sheriff’s department, the Deputy Town Manager, and myself. For months now, a resident has chosen to attack the reputation not only of Town staff but two leaders of our police department – Captain Boswell and Lieutenant Toms. For months I have sat silent – I’m done staying silent based upon the most recent entry into this legend. Here is what the neighbor on Linda Lee recently blogged:

    “The five of us, Mr. Nuaimi, Mr. Stueckle, Captain Boswell and Lieutenant Toms were standing together on the side of the road. On the OTHER side of the road a biker dumped his bike … off the side of the road, actually. He was arrested for assault on an officer and the charged with battery on an officer, a more severe crime. In the time since I’ve learned more than I wanted to know about character and integrity of the many people and agencies involved in that case.”

    I can tell you unequivocally that the incident on Linda Lee DID NOT transpire as this blogger is trying to lead the community to believe.

    -This blogger must forget that he actually attempted to insert himself into the enforcement action by initially standing in the middle of the road, directing the motorcyclist to stop.

    -He probably forgets being told by Captain Boswell to kindly remove himself from the road and allow the Captain and Lieutenant to do their jobs.

    -The motorcyclist ignored their instructions to stop – instructions that were being given by the officers standing in the middle of the dirt road. In fact, the motorcyclist attempted to drive past the Captain & Lieutenant only to lose control, attempt to flee, and then be taken to the ground and arrested.

    I can’t tell you why this blogger is intentionally misleading people to believe that this was somehow an improper arrest or that our officers acted inappropriately. I can’t tell you why he (the blogger) claimed to file internal complaints with the sheriff’s department, state attorney general, and others. I can’t tell you why he took this issue to our local congressman and now attacks his integrity as it pertains to this matter. What I can tell you is that our law enforcement professionals took a frequent flier into custody that day on Linda Lee. He had two outstanding bench warrants for his arrest. He plead guilty for his actions and served his time.

    Why this blogger continues to mislead this community is beyond me. But it is clear that this blogger forgets why we were meeting with him in the first place – the blogger was concerned about Off-Highway Vehicle use terrorizing the neighborhood. We had four representatives from the Town meeting with him and when one of the more aggressive OHVers is taken into custody, he (the blogger) complains about that action as well.

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