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Big MAC Meets for Brown Act Training Tuesday 11AM-Session Open to the Public

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The-Brown-Act2 UPDATE:

Special Meeting of the Morongo Basin

Municipal Advisory Council


Brown Act Training

Tuesday, March 18th 2014

11:00 AM



Bob Burke County Government Offices

63665 Twentynine Palms Hwy.

Joshua Tree, CA 92252



1)  Call to Order Special Meeting of the Morongo Basin Municipal Advisory Council


2)  Brown Act Overview and Training by San Bernardino County Counsel’s Office


3)  Public Comment


4)  Adjourn Meeting


San Bernardino County is committed to ensuring that persons with disabilities are provided

the resources to fully participate in its public meetings.  If you require disability-related modifications or accommodations, including auxiliary aid or services, please contact the Board of Supervisors’ office at least three (3) business days prior to the meeting.

PREVIOUS-March 9th post: Big MAC Cancels Monday’s Closed Session: Regular Meeting at 6:30 PM.


The closed session meeting previously noticed has been canceled due to improper noticing.
The Brown Act training session will be rescheduled for a later date. 
The regular 6:30 MAC open session remains unchanged.
Morongo Basin Municipal Advisory Council
Joshua Tree Community Center
6171 Sunburst Ave., Joshua Tree, CA 92252
Closed Session Meeting Canceled
5:30 PM, Monday, March 10, 2014
Members of the Council meet in closed session with County legal counsel for purpose of training and review of the Ralph M. Brown Act, California’s open meeting law.  No actions are anticipated.

Earlier Story: MAC Declares Closed Session to Discuss and Review Open Meeting Law behind Closed Doors?

San Bernardino, Ca.,- Prior to the first DVD taping of the San Bernardino Municipal Advisory Council appointed by Third District Supervisor, James Ramos, the agenda posted for the meeting of March 10, 2014 advises the public there will be a Closed Session with legal counsel to discuss and review the California Open Meeting Law, the Ralph M. Brown Act.

Thanks to our sharp on-their-toes readers, it was brought to my attention the declared Closed Session to discuss the Ralph M. Brown Act law for open meetings, was in fact, a violation of same.  I sent an email to Supervisor Ramos Chief of Staff : “It has been brought to my attention the proposed “Closed session” to review the Ralph M. Brown Act, may in fact, be a violation of same.

Holding a private meeting to review California’s most significant open meeting law? Although not required, it was suggested  you should use Government Code 54954.5 as guidance to the agenda item wording. This way people would know what Government Code they feel appropriately provides safe harbor for a session as such.

The most common use of closed session with legal counsel is to discuss litigation matters. Is the MAC anticipating litigation? If so, the Brown Act requires the declaration of the closed meeting is called to discuss anticipated litigation, names, number of cases and appropriate Government Code. It has also been suggested to me that the MAC should do what CalAware advises and hold it in public session for the entire community.

Thank you for your attention to these concerns.”

Respectfully submitted, Margo Sturges MB Citizens for Responsible Government

Update: March 9, 2014.  Please note the Chair of the MAC sent out the above cancellation notice and in a separate email, personally thanked me for bringing this matter to his attention.

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Margo Sturges

Yucca Valley Editor

Note: Margo Sturges has written many articles for Cactus Thorns and is the founder of Citizens4Change.info. Email contact: MargoSturgesYV(at)aol.com "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."- George Orwell


  1. It defies logic and common sense that MAC would “Declares Closed Session to Discuss and Review Open Meeting Law behind Closed Doors”.

    Somebody must be feeling like a jackass right now. Time to bring out a chair and a dunce cap.

  2. Dan OBrien Dan OBrien says:

    Is this a perfect example of an Oxymoron?

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