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U.S. Postal Service to end Saturday delivery – The Washington Post

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U.S. Postal Service to end Saturday delivery – The Washington Post

by Lisa Rein and Ed O’Keefe, Wednesday, February 6, 12:54 PM

The U.S. Postal Service on Wednesday moved to circumvent Congress by announcing that it will stop collecting and delivering mail on Saturdays in an effort to stem its staggering financial losses.

The cutback in service to Monday-through-Friday delivery, starting Aug. 5, would result in a $2 billion savings annually for the agency, which lost $15.9 billion in the last fiscal year. Packages will still be delivered on Saturdays, and post office boxes will continue to receive mail that day. Post offices will also be open to sell stamps and other materials. But magazines, some newspapers, catalogues and Netflix movies would not reach customers’ homes on Saturdays.

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23 Comments

  1. RescueGuy RescueGuy says:

    Too little too late for the USPS. Saturday delivery should have been killed off years ago. I'd close the PO's too on Saturday and none of that "package" delivery nonsense on Saturdays either. Whack the upcoming pensions, lay some folks off, upgrade the automation and then they can only lose about 4 BILLION a year. Win = Win.

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  2. LINDAG LINDAG says:

    I have a post office box and check it once or twice a week and that is enough. I get most of my communications via email. When I go to the post office it is a bunch of old people standing over the trash can opening their third class mail and throwing it away...does that tell you anything about the need for all this paper.

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  3. Ed Montgomery Ed Montgomery says:

    According to what I'm understanding from the US Post Office, they will stop home deliveries for US mail on Saturdays, but the post office itself will still be open on Saturday and you still will get PO Box deliveries on Saturday.

    As far as I am concerned they can close it all together on Saturday. I get all my mail through my PO box anyway. The post office is in such bad shape I've been reading stories that someday it might go private. I don't know if there's any truth to that, but it would not surprise me.

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  4. LINDAG LINDAG says:

    Oh, and nothing against "old people"...I am one...I never used that term until I earned it myself. Now I wear it proudly, I've earned it and it gives me an excuse for being bitchy.

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  5. Steve Spear Steve Spear says:

    Do any of you actually know what you are talking about?

    This is a test question:

    How much in tax dollars are spent in running the United States Post Office?

    Hint - it is the same amount that the city of 29 Palms pays from the General Fund for the 29 palms fire department.

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    • RescueGuy RescueGuy says:

      Do you have a point Steve? What are you talking about?

      Obviously the answer to your question is ZERO, save for Military personnel to send letters home and I believe the blind also get a free pass. We the people pay for those.

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      • Steve Spear Steve Spear says:

        Point Rescue Guy is that your first response was to "Whack the upcoming pensions, lay some folks off, upgrade the automation and then they can only lose about 4 BILLION a year. Win = Win." Your comments made it sound like the United States Post Office is somehow operating at your tax dollar expense.

        If I read into your comments and those of the others then excuse me.

        Or are some forgetting the Postal Act of 2006, passed at the last minute by the lame duck, at the time, Republican congress, which demanded the United States Post Office future fund 75 years of expected retirements in ten years.

        That would be akin to demanding that the city of 29 Palms future fund their own unfunded retirement obligation of 12 million in the next 5 years.

        The city would go bankrupt.

        Point is - the United States Post Office is a private company and it does not need the help of Congress to do anything.

        In fact had that Republican congress at the end of 2006 left well enough alone it is estimated that the United Post office would have a budget surplus of almost 1.5 billion.

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      • Steve Spear Steve Spear says:

        Oh - How do "We as the people pay for those" who are in the military or blind?

        Back at you - What are you talking about?

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  6. LINDAG LINDAG says:

    ...the point is?

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  7. Steve Spear Steve Spear says:

    Hi LINDAG,

    See my post to Rescue Guy for your answer. Always good to see you ask questions.

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  8. RescueGuy RescueGuy says:

    The USPS is coddled as a monopoly by the US GVT, which is not really a private company and has to answer to the Govt. It is a unique situation.

    Back at you? Our taxes pay the postage fort the military and the blind, even though the costs are the liability of the various services (Marines, Army etc) we pay indirectly since we fund the various services.

    Is this what you are asking?

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    • Steve Spear Steve Spear says:

      If you have a problem with our taxes paying a military budget that is then used to buy postage for our troops that are in a war zone, as well as buy their weapons and ammunition, and make their paychecks so they can feed and house their families, then you take that weight on your own.

      My point has been, and is, that your tax dollars pay nothing to run the United States Post Office.

      Bishop to Queen's 4 - check?

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      • RescueGuy RescueGuy says:

        You are the only guy here with a hair up his ass about taxes, and I guess you have made your point, but it was not one that was being knocked around. Thanks though...

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        • Steve Spear Steve Spear says:

          I do indeed have that hair. Taxes are a necessary evil but not when they are abused as they are today.

          Always good to banter with you.

          You have made some excellent points about our fight with the city of 29 Palms and our Fire Department which I have previously acknowledged.

          By those comments you made me think even harder and deeper about how to present my thoughts and I thank you for that.

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  9. LINDAG LINDAG says:

    Geesh, I thought we were having a simple discussion about the postal operations, and how technology has lessened the need for daily service, for me, a few times per week would meet my needs...that was my point anyway. Do I have to find another "two stooges" video...again?

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  10. RescueGuy RescueGuy says:

    I'll add as to why I care and called a 4 Billion $$ loss a win win... It will keep our postage rates down. To recover a 15B $ loss would for sure make first class rates rise, and a lot. To lose a mere 4 Billion or so might make those raises smaller under the umbrella of "we are doing great". Taxes or our paying of them were never on my radar as far as the USPS. That fake monopoly thing bugs me though

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  11. Steve Spear Steve Spear says:

    I would imagine similar thinking could be applied to Arco, BP, and all the oil conglomerates.

    I would love to see congress to step in and regulate their profit margins but that will never happen as it did with the USPS.

    However given the two monopolies, the USPS and the oil super-RICO conglomerates it is the latter that is destroying our country and certainly not the cost of a first class postage stamp from the USPS.

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  12. Mark Clemons Mark Clemons says:

    The PO like SS has been robbed by our beloved congress, fun reading your boys take on it, shows how those that have not a clue will spout BS just to read themselves.
    Source http://www.postalreporternews.net/2010/06/23/usps-oig-fixing-csrs-overpayment-and-pre-funding-requirements-would-fully-fund-pension-and-retiree-health-benefits/

    In July 1971, when the Post Office Department became the Postal Service, employees that belonged to the federal pension fund began contributing to the Postal Service’s portion of the pension fund. These retirement costs were divided according to the number of years employees had belonged to each fund. However, the federal pension fund paid for retirements was based on 1971 salaries, not final salaries as administered by the Office of Personnel Management (OPM).
    OPM has explained that these mischarges were in response to what they believed to be the will of Congress expressed in 1974 legislation. However, the 1974 language was repealed by Congress in 2003. Congress directed OPM to use its authority to oversee the reforms using accepted “dynamic assumptions” that include pay increases and inflation. OPM switched to dynamic funding for the Postal Service portion, but did not for their share. The Postal Service paid the $75 billion difference.
    In 2004, the Postal Service appealed the OPM’s methodology for pension fund allocation and the appeal was denied by the OPM. The denial relied on 1974 legislation that made the Postal Service responsible for the pension costs related to salary increases. However, the 1974 language was repealed by Congress.
    In addition, the OPM directed the Postal Service to use 100 percent pre-funding for both pension and health care retirement funds. In contrast the OPM has pension funding levels of 41 percent for federal employees and 24 percent for the military. The OPM’s own retiree health care prefunding for federal employees is 0 percent. The Standard & Poor’s 500 companies’ pension funding is 80 percent.
    Correcting either the $75 billion overcharge or reducing the 100 percent target prefunding level to 80 percent would result in the ability of the Postal Service to pay off the Treasury debt associated with paying the $75 billion overcharge.
    Accordingly, the annual costs and premiums for the health care liability could be financed out of the interest earnings and surplus. Another option for the Postal Service could be to use the $75 billion overcharge to pledge to the retiree health fund instead of making annual payments. This could be done with the agreement of the OPM and the U.S. Treasury.

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    • Steve Spear Steve Spear says:

      Hi Mark can you explain to us what you posted there? Does it mention how many tax dollars are spent on the USPS?

      Here is another source - the USPS itself:

      By the Numbers

      66 billion — revenue in 2011, in dollars
      167.9 billion — number of mail pieces processed in 2011
      554 million — average number of mail pieces processed each day
      23 million — average number of mail pieces processed each hour
      384,000 — average number of mail pieces processed each minute
      6,400 — average number of mail pieces processed each second
      40 — percent of the world’s mail volume handled by the Postal Service
      1.9 billion — dollar amount paid every two weeks in salaries and benefits
      546,000 — number of career employees
      31,509 — number of Postal Service-managed retail offices
      34 million — number of work hours reduced equals 19,000 full-time employees
      213,881 — number of vehicles — the largest civilian fleet in the world
      1.2 billion — number of miles driven each year by letter carriers and truck drivers
      39.9 million — number of address changes processed in 2011
      35.5 — percent of retail revenue from alternative access channels in 2011
      1.2 million — number of people who visited usps.com each day
      62 million — number of inquiries handled by Postal Service Contact Center in 2011
      236 million — dollar amount of online stamp and retail sales at usps.com in 2011
      467 million — total revenue, in dollars, from Click-N-Ship label purchases in 2011
      5.6 million — number of passport applications accepted in 2011
      116 million — number of money orders issued in 2011
      543 million — amount in revenue from 2,500 Automated Postal Centers
      71,000 — number of stores, banks and ATMs that sell postage stamps
      636,530 — number of new delivery points added to the network in 2011
      0 — tax dollars received for operating the Postal Service

      Notice the last entry - "0", that would be ZERO tax dollars are spent to support the USPS.

      Does your previous post refute that position? Please let us know. Thanks.

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      • Mark Clemons Mark Clemons says:

        You are right Steve no taxes for the PO. Wonder what paid for the largest real estate portfolios in the country when they went from a department to a service, I don’t think it was acquired by postage.

        I have found never believe an administrator or bureaucrats when it comes to funding, they will always lie and deny they have a use it or lose it problem.

        https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=534955883205164&set=a.467056609995092.113551.463148250385928&type=1&theater

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  13. LINDAG LINDAG says:

    ALL RIGHT THAT DOES IT........
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsgOzaRw898&feature=player_embedded

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  14. LINDAG LINDAG says:

    Go to your post office today...does it look like mine, with the trash cans overflowing and every surface covered with discarded mail? Why do we need daily delivery of this crap? This is the modern world folks, get with it and stop being such an old fogie with nothing better to do than check your (useless and unwanted) mail. Find another hobby. It is not the day when you received welcomed hand written letters from friends and family on a regular basis. It's crap and bills, which do not need to be delivered every day. Businesses should be conected to the internet for billing and receipts. Look at all this wasted paper and time and money that is lying on the floor of your post office.

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    • Mark Clemons Mark Clemons says:

      Computers may save time but they sure waste a lot of paper. About 98 percent of everything printed out by a computer is garbage that no one ever reads.
      Andy Rooney

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