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“You need to be discreet.”
“You shouldn’t air our dirty laundry in public.”
“The Lincoln Club called us and asked what exactly is going on?”
Those are just a few of the statements directed to me at a Special Meeting of the Yucca Valley Republican Women this morning because I objected to a tax proposal placed on the club website without club authorization or an approval from the members. Disguised as a “Press Release” it was a full page slanted presentation to promote the Town of Yucca Valley’s Revenue Measure.
Folks, it is a T-A-X! If it looks like a tax, walks like a tax, quacks like a tax…….it is a TAX! It is a General Fund Tax. Dress it up as a “Revenue Measure” it is still a TAX.
The Town wants us to hand over $100 million dollars over 30 years that is solely discretionary spending by the Town Manager. Yes, it should read spending by the Town Council, but if future councils are going to be spineless like the present members, it will be the Town Manager spending the money as it is presently.
It used to be the Republican Women were against taxes, big government and worked to educate the voter. Well, now we have a group with an elected President/webmaster placing a slanted “News Release” on the website of a $100 million town tax without authorization from the Board or even polling the members on this issue. I asked her to take it down, waited, she didn’t, so I sent out my emails to object.
Oh yes, what about another Board member endorsing a Democratic candidate at the General Meeting because the candidate is a “Christian,” and they say I owe the President an apology for speaking up and speaking out? Another Board member said I need to send a retraction to the Editor of the Hi-Desert Star.
You talkin’ to me? Do they not know that I will not be intimidated nor have my rights squashed of my freedom of speech to voice my opinion? Ooooooh….the Lincoln Club…see me shaking?
And to think I was not even going to attend this emergency meeting called less than 24 hours in advance. The President provided a 3 minute timer and called on me to speak first….I passed. When you only have 3 minutes to speak, I explained, I would prefer to know what the topic is or more about the issues. Several members also passed not wanting to spend their 3 minutes either. We all sat in silence…..until I greeted and thanked everyone for attending this meeting on short notice. That was the ice breaker.
Bottom line, the Board agreed it was a slanted press release and voted to place a large font disclaimer to read: The opinions expressed in this Press Release do not reflect the views of the Republican Woman and is not an endorsement by this club. Republicans are opposed to taxes as reiterated by this club with cartoons and slogans under the tab marked “Legislation.” Look for the T.E.A. letters….Taxed Enough Already! (Ok, I added the last two lines.) We’ll see what the President comes up with to be approved by the Board.
It wasn’t so much what I said, it was HOW I said it. Instead of addressing the mistake, the Board members felt sorry for the President and cried. (oh, boo-hoo!) The members asked that I send out emails to everyone to let them know this matter was resolved, until they realized the only person that possesses the entire list of email addresses is……the President/webmaster!
I informed the Board that I would write it up on the Blog because there would be more readers to “learn of the matter being resolved.” The website link omitted to spare their site from crashing. See you at the next Board meeting!
Readers- please considered yourself informed.
For the record: The Tax measure needs to go back to the drawing board to specifically pay for the sewer mandate so that citizens will not lose their homes. In the meantime:
Showdown Saturday at Republican Women's Club,
Margo our beloved republicans has morphed from what you said less government less taxes more personal freedoms to a wing of corporatism flapping in unison with the other wing known in the past as the democrats. Bailing out the banks and global giant businesses at the expense of those that funded SS, the poor and needy. We need to keep our eye on the queen ( the iou’s from looting SS) as the right wing of the party plays it is the retirees and the needy that has run up 16 trillion in debt to the private bankers that was bailed out.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.
How about attributing those quotes to whom they belong…. Thomas Jefferson would take umbrage in your plagiarism.
Oops my bad, for Terry he Thomas Jefferson was guilty by today standards of enslavement, very sad human history. It is hard to fathom our nation with slavery our women and non property owners unable to vote, I guess the old boys did what they thought would be the best for the future. In my view they created a document that truly is living and I have no problem giving them thanks for their hard work.
It was yesterdays standards as well. They “owners” excused themselves just as many do today. While I give thanks for the Constitution, there were no human gods at the time, just as there isn’t now.
The quote offered from Jefferson was at the least hypocritical. To accept it while criticizing today’s bankers, isn’t much different. After all, they too, are following today’s standards. For the good of the country of course.
Nicely put, if you were less than a white man property owner therefore you were two thirds a white man, today it’s your fica score. Slavery has definitely evolved to include all the little people, our labor is now rewarded with debt instruments known as federal reserve notes. Dam T J had a lot of insight about central banks and their desire to enslave through deflation and inflation of currency.
You of course being an expert by way of personal example on what is Hypocrisy.
Yes, I started a website so I could shout down anybody who disagreed with me.
Do you have anything intelligent to say?
Yes, lots.
Then explain to me again why you feel slavery is or was acceptable.
Where did that come from?
Talk about pulling things out of the air….. Here is one for you..
So tell me why you feel molesting children is or was acceptable?
” The first difference which strikes us is that of colour. – Whether the black of the negro resides in the reticular membrane between the skin and scarf-skin,or in the scarf-skin itself; whether it proceeds from the colour of the blood, the colour of the bile, or from that of some other secretion, the difference is fixed in nature, and is as real as if its seat and cause were better known to us. And is this difference of no importance? Is it not the foundation of a greater or less share of beauty in the two races? Are not the fine mixtures of red and white, the expressions of every passion by greater or less suffusions of colour in the one, preferable to that eternal monotony, which reigns in the countenances, that immovable veil of black which covers all the emotions of the other race? Add to these, flowing hair, a more elegant symmetry of form, their own judgment in favour of the whites, declared by their preference of them, as uniformly as is the preference of the Oranootan for the black women over those of his own species. The circumstance of Superior beauty, is thought worthy attention in the propagation of our horses, dogs, and other domestic animals; why not in that of man? Besides those of colour, figure, and hair, there are other physical distinctions proving a difference of race. They have less hair on the face and body. They secrete less by the kidneys, and more by the glands of the skin, which gives them a very strong and disagreeable odour.”
Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XIV, Thomas Jefferson (1787)
On the differences between the races:
Pages 229 – 231
so in posting this quote and by your own standard you agree with the author?
I greatly disagree with much of what he said and did. While I do support the rights of the state over the rights of the national government, I support the right of an individual not to be enslaved. Jefferson was a pretty mixed up cat. While you can pull out both good and bad, he really was just another aristocrat.
You’re being pretty defensive. Do you support the author or should he be questioned as well?
Sounds like you are doing a little backtracking there Terry…
More of an explanation than anything. Jefferson was a bit of a populist, promoting principles popular amongst those who could vote.Worked for him. Worked for the farms in the south. Didn’t work out so well for the slaves, especially the blacks. A politician is a politician regardless of the era. Your correction of Mark’s quote shows as much hypocrisy in what was said then then as there is now. I didn’t attribute it to your beliefs until you became so defensive.
A large part of my hypocrisy argument was directed at Mark, who can excuse Jefferson for doing what was dictated at the time, while condemning the bankers of today for doing more or less the same thing. While slavery was enforceable, taking out a loan isn’t. Today we have a small amount of choice.
Terry when you say “A large part of my hypocrisy argument was directed at Mark, who can excuse Jefferson for doing what was dictated at the time, while condemning the bankers of today for doing more or less the same thing. While slavery was enforceable, taking out a loan isn’t. Today we have a small amount of choice” it makes me think we are not on the same page , I was referring to not only your worthiness according to ones fica but the debt note one is paid for one’s labor. To me when you are paid with a note that represents a debt to the private Federal Reserve you are enslaved.
I was referring to “I guess the old boys did what they thought would be the best for the future.”
Jefferson’s conclusion was,
” Many of their advocates, while they wish to vindicate the liberty of human nature, are anxious also to preserve its dignity and beauty. Some of these, embarrassed by the question ‘What further is to be done with them?’ join themselves in opposition with those who are actuated by sordid avarice only. Among the Romans emancipation required but one effort. The slave, when made free, might mix with, without staining the blood of his master. But with us a second is necessary, unknown to history. When freed, he is to be removed beyond the reach of mixture.”
He was worried about the mixing of the races, not the country.
OK we have morph from slavery to race, I can go there. I find racism appalling very wrong, but I do not think most that harbor Jeffersontonian view of race are inherently bad people, they are a product of their surroundings. Yet there are many times I have had a hard time holding back from bitch slapping some idiot black or white for saying a word that sixty years ago was commonly used. I guess we evolve just as the great document that protects the people from the state evolves, the authors did a mighty fine job.
How can you condemn racism while accepting slavery? The two were inseparable.
I doubt that I posted I accepted slavery,it was a product of the times, very sad thing. I am starting to have a hard time following, but I can assure you that you don’t need slavery to be a racist. now days slavery includes all that measure wealth by how many dollars (debt notes)they have, yes even slavery has evolved beyond race, shackles, and town square sales.
I’ll take all those worthless dollars off of your hands.
We are so far removed from slavery, we have no comprehension of what slavery is. We are a product of our times much more so than Jefferson was. We sugar coat our history to make it palatable. It is what it was, not what we wish it to be. Even Benjamen Franklin spoke out against slavery. It wasn’t an unknown evil. The closest thing today would be child labor in third world countries. Something that we have came together as a country to corrector at least hide from our view.
righteous feel good pretty speak
Dan is that why you started the website?
So you could shout down anybody who disagrees with you.
I have to tell you then you need to work a bit harder at it, because those disagreeable people are still on the site.
Terry the only way Dan could meet your intelligence quotient is to agree with you.
Maybe you should start your own website so you could argue with someone who agrees with you.
You are the all knowing, compassionate one after all second only maybe to Branson.
My small neanderthal mind awaits your witty, intelligence laden retort. Please be gentle.
desertrider, why drag me into your silly argument? However, Terry is telling it straight.
I’d rather be a compassionate being rather than a desert redneck in-bred.
A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circlue of our felicities.
Thomas Jefferson
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So he fed his slaves?
An enemy generally says and believes what he wishes.
Thomas Jefferson
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While we are discussing the issue of slavery and racism…
Does anyone know which of the two parties was pro slavery and more recently vehemately against the civil rights act.
That very same party is/has been claiming/lying that the other party are racists merely because they want our countries laws obeyed,at the same time deporting 700,000+
Jefferson was a great mind and a powerful thinker. He was, however, a racist of his time.
Jefferson wrote: “But never yet could I find that a black had uttered a thought above the level of plain narration…. Among the blacks is misery enough, God knows, but no poetry. Pages 266-267.
Jefforson also wrote on page 270: “I advance it therefore as a suspicion only , that the b lacks, whether originally a distinct race, or made distinct by time and circumstances, are inferior to the whites in their endowments both of body and mind.”
Book Title: Jefferson Writings, publisher The Library of America. Chapter title: Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XIV, Thomas Jefferson (1787), Library of Congress catalog number: 83-19917.
Branson you weren’t dragged in, just a comparison, you are always lurking in the recesses. Of course you would think Terry has got it straight. You guys are both all knowing, compassionate and intelligence laden beings.
And I am apparently a desert redneck in-bred, you forgot small minded neanderthal.
What a burden it must be for you two to be surrounded by such ignoramuses
Are saying I am not compassionate?
Are we not compassionate (in your mind) because we want able bodied people to work for themselves and not live off the hard work of others.
Are we not compassionate (in your mind) because we want people that come here to come here legally and obey our laws.
It seems as though it may be a perspective issue.
My small neanderthal mind awaits your witty, intelligence laden retort. Please be gentle.