Issac Hagerman states the following on his Facebook Page:
Thank you everyone for your support. I am not going to be responding to the hateful attacks and the rumors. I enjoyed my time on the council. This has been an extremely hard year personally. My two sons are my priority as well as my job that I have been extremely blessed with. I have one chance with my boys and they need my full attention. There are going to be viscous attacks to come, please do not respond to them. I know who my friends are and I appreciate all of you very much. Thank you all for the amount of love you have shown me already.
Mr. Hagerman’s resignation is effective Friday 20, 2012
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Google shows a press release by the city.. Did it get pulled?
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Jesse Jackson Jr. syndrome?
Hi Issac,
We have communicated a few times over the last two years. If I may, I leave you with this favorite quote of mine. It has assisted me many times:
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.”
Teddy Roosevelt
You entered the arena and you shall never for the rest of your life ever to be considered one of the “cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat”
Good luck and may you have fair seas and following winds.
You might not be aware of this but over the last couple of years Issac and I have kindled a rather warm friendship. Being a smart ass myself, I was immediately drawn to Issac’s unique personality. You can not help but like the guy.
While others on the blog have slammed him for one reason or the other, I always to the position that the guy is a young go get’er that doesn’t put up with shit from anyone. I like that in my politicians, I like that in my friends.
Is Issac perfect? Hell no but then, I’m one to judge…. Not! Issac grabbed the bull by the horns, hopped up on its back and gave it the full 8 seconds. He put up with more grief in his short stay on the Yucca Town Council than most people have to put up with their whole life. He took it like a man and came out standing tall.
What ever is in Issac Hagerman’s future I know he will Stand Tall and survive.
The guy has me forever as a friend.
My favorite bumper sticker from the 80s. Never kick a man unless he’s down.
Good luck Isaac. Hope you didn’t take any of my questions personally. I was hoping to give you a chance to explain yourself in my hopes of believing the best before rushing to judgment. I hope that you print out the message from Steve. Keep it handy, whenever times get tough remember that your not alone and no matter how bleak any situation seems to press you down remember theres an army of unseen warriors cheering you on.
Okay, ever body, revile me. Hate me. Treat me with disgust and loathing. But I am going to say this: Did Issac give those seniors he evicted from his living center in Sky Harbor receive any respect? They had several days to pack their bags and hit the streets. They were all in the community room crying about it. That was cold.
Personally I have nothing against Isaac. In fact, for the reasons Dan wrote about, I like his spirit and like him. But being a town councilman just wasn’t his bag.
And there is no scarlet letter about that. It wouldn’t be my bag either. May much good luck come your way Issac. Build on your karma bank.
As he quits and shrinks away.
He has interrupted the actions of the city as well as tossed old people to the curb. We haven’t picked on him in a long time. I’m waiting for the story he is trying to avoid. I doubt it has anything to do with his kids that he is using for an excuse. Like JJ jr. he thought he was privileged. Above the rest. I’m sorry. He gets what he deserves when held up to public scrutiny.
A go getter? What did he get?
Seriously Terry? Do you pull the feathers off of baby birds too?
He is not a baby bird. He’s an ostrich hiding with his head in the sand. A quitter with no compassion for the city he was supposed to serv. While the talk gets a lot deeper, I won’t repeat it here. Sometimes a child of privilege gets away with a lot of things over the years. It’s time for it to stop. He doesn’t get a pass when nothing has changed.
Terry, how is it that one a young man murders a child you come to his defense but when a young mans business fails you have no mercy?
Terry, it’s good to see you care about the old people. When you heard of this debacle did you try to see if you could actually help any of them with temporary shelter?
So I guess none of us care about old people when none of us stepped up with shelter.
Now that we are all sinners, to take a position of responsibility for compensation when not qualified to carry out the responsibility is a little more than going out of business, especially when the welfare of others is concerned. That goes for both the old folks home and the city. You don’t quit half way.
I don’t know about you lone ranger but My Wife and I stepped up all our lives for “old people” We took care of our parents collectively and individually from 1985 until 2011. So don’t even go there with the broad brush of yours.
Were we qualified to do the right thing and take care of our own? I guess we might not have been qualified but we were “honoring thy Mothers and Fathers” the best we could to the very end.
So when you talk about you and that mouse in your pocket leave my name out off you list of you who do not care for your old.
I know, kids and stray dogs as well. I didn’t consider the numerous trips to the VA as stepping up, I actually enjoyed myself.
Here’s the question you apparently didn’t bother to read in your haste in claiming righteousness..
” When you heard of this debacle did you try to see if you could actually help any of them with temporary shelter?”
Actually if you look just above my post you’ll get it straight from the horse’s keyboard.
Terry, Maybe it is in you nature to be of the Imperial Japanese school of warfare where every opponent must be slain or must commit ritual suicide, but I’m more the Sun Tzu “Art of War” kind of guy.
Do not interfere with an army that is returning home. When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard.
- Sun Tzu
The guy is no longer a public person to be ridiculed or attacked without warrant… That part of his life ended at the end of this business day.
You need to proclaim victory, sign the Peace Treaty and move the F*** On, because if you keep this hateful shit up you are the one who looks like an ass not him.
What was the point of denying the city an election? It wasn’t a clean break and certainly not a retreat.
One more time:
- Sun Tzu
Oh gee… let me see, Hagerman has to work his resignation schedule so it does not piss Terry off….
Maybe it has everything to do with what is going on in Issac’s life and not a god damned thing to do with Terry Elam, the Town of Yucca Valley or anyone else.
It is not Issac Hagerman’s problem concerning a special election. He’s off the clock.
He was on the clock when he quit. Why the timing? It once again shows lack of concern of others.
I just wonder what his next infraction will be.
Don’t toss your just your theory out there when you pride yourself on trains and suicide. You can’t pick and chose who is running home to fit your fancy. I could say that you are the one being an ass. You resort to usual low balling when you have no answers or you want something covered up..
More importantly than the two of us showing off our vast vocabulary or your boy,…Who is doing the manipulating behind the timing of the resignation? It’s too much of a coincidence for knowledgeable people.
I apologize for my language.
Terry, I’m just using the same Terry logic you use when you talk about Imus. You often refer to the emperor having not clothes. First take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
There is talk at city hall he’ll not be replaced this coming November, but in March 2013. Any input on this revolting development?
This sitting Council has maxed out their allowed appointments of TWO council members, Merl Abel and Robert Lombardo.
What reason will YV Town Manager Nuaimi come up with this time to arrange for the Council to appoint, AGAIN??
Save the Town money and put this opening on the November ballot for the remaining two year term. There will be two long term seats open and one short term.
It’s time for the citizens elect the leaders by voting and NOT another appointment.
Government Code 36512.
(b) If a vacancy occurs in an elective office provided for in this chapter, the council shall, within 60 days from the commencement of the vacancy, either fill the vacancy by appointment or call a special election to fill the vacancy. The special election shall be held on the next regularly established election date not less than 114 days from the call of the special election. A person appointed or elected to fill a vacancy holds office for the unexpired term of the former
incumbent.
Even if the Town Council were meeting later today, November 6th is less than 114 days from now. Therefore, state law prevents a November 6th election to fill the vacancy. The “next regularly established election date” is March 5th, 2013 as defined by Elections Code.
This was highlighted in the Town’s press release concerning the resignation at:
http://www.yucca-valley.org/blog/index.php/2012/07/councilmember-hagerman-resigns-from-town-council/
I may be off a day or two, but I’m counting 108 days until the next election. It makes one wonder if this was taken into account at all in deciding the date of resignation. If nothing else no consideration was given to the people of the city.
Hey Mark, you’re not thinking about pushing for an APPOINTMENT to the council rather than advising the town council to hold a special election for a town leader after the 114 days are you? I’m thinking that may want to do that.
After all, factually, the council has favor making APPOINTMENTS to the town council rather than pay for special ELECTIONS. Gee whiz that would make three appointments, not to be confused with a democratic popular election.
Terry is on to something. I smell it over here in 29 Palms.
Hi Branson,
I think that 3 appointments is precluded under State Law because that would constitute a quorum of the body as being non-elected.
The only course of action is Special Election in March as described.
Steve
Government Code 36512 (d)(1)
Notwithstanding subdivision (b) and Section 34902, an appointment shall not be made to fill a vacancy on a city council if the appointment would result in a majority of the members serving on the council having been appointed. The vacancy shall be filled in the manner provided by this subdivision.
The special election shall be held on the next regularly established election date not less than 114 days from the call of the special election. Government Code 36512 (b)
Therefore, after November 2012 there will be new members on the town council that were elected, and there would not be a “majority” that were appointed. Thus,the next the next regularly established election date not less than 114 days may be March 2012. . . However after the November election and after the 114 days which begins today — there could be a *special election* to fill the vacancy.
Mark didn’t touch on this.
Seven months with four council members is just not practicable. What about those 2-2 votes? How are those matters settled?
It’s difficult to do any meaningful legal research on the web without researching annotated case law because case law interprets the codes — and for that you a law library, or Lexis or some other very expensive cyber research tools.
How do you see it Steve?
@Steve- Thank you for the clarification regarding three appointments creating a quorum.
Question: IF appointee, YV Councilman Robert Lombardo, is reelected this November his status is changed to “elected” rather than “appointee,” correct?
If someone else is elected, instead of Lombardo, that will leave only ONE appointee remaining on the YV Town Council, Merl Able.
In either scenario, I predict YV Town Mgr (Staff,wink-wink) will strongly urge the Council not have the seat vacant for 8 months nor spend the $40,00 or so for a Special Election.
This will pave the way for the Sky Harbor Four to appoint one of their neighbors, ya think? As the Hi-Desert Star called the last appointing scenario “a Circus,” maybe this time they will provide popcorn and peanuts?
While Manager Mark Nuaimi provided the link to the Town Press Release in a comment, why didn’t he send it to DanO to post with all the dates and information. Unfortunately, only a few read the comments to the stories posted.
Did you catch this? No where did Nuaimi cite there would be a Special Election, only the dates for the earliest IF one were called.
Hmmm. Check with the bookie on this one for the odds, IF, you are a betting man.
Terry, geez, there is an election countdown clock on the site. Quit trying to impress us with your collegiate math skills. .. …. … …… ………… …….
Thank you Steve and Dan for the kind words.
As far as a real man goes..there are very few of them in YV, especially when a Haggardman or a former Brassknuckledfaced ex wife of its, goes on its Facebook page and degrades a Lady, a writer on this awesome blog, gets no respect now or forever. Wonder if the Old Bailey offers first class service to their guests. That is in its future for sure, one cannot hide behind all their sins of treating the elderly who trusted him, misplaced narcotics or total dysfunctionality that stems from the primal scream theory of family. Known theory that like attracts like, mirrors attract same images in circles of life, there has to be changes made in YV management structure sometime soon.
No Paparrazzi the questions didnt bother me. Thanks for your perspective.
Steve, thank you for confirming the state law that was cited. Also, since the council has 60 days to schedule the election, the election will be called before the November election. So the conspiracy theory that somehow the council will end up appointing a replacement is simply impossible.
Terry is this your real name or a handle? What community do you reside in?
Can you answer the question? Why the timing? Did you not realize or was it a suggestion from others? You ran for the position then made a mockery of the whole thing. What is your excuse?
Why were you not prepared at Tuesday’s meeting, Isaac? Did you even read all the material.
For the record- Hagerman did not attend the complex YV Town Council meeting last Tuesday. Also, he missed the first budget meeting in June.
There were two Councilmen that were not prepared for the YV budget adoption at the second meeting in June.
Well, his nightmare is over as of last Friday,as a councilman, that is.
Let’s move along folks…the body has been removed from the crash scene.
Housekeeping: Correct spelling ISAAC HAGERMAN, for the records.
The body is still floating in the spa. Money couldn’t cover it up.
Terry, you are the king of not answering questions. That’s why I describe you as a heckler.
isaac, Terry has referred to his family in an historical sense I do believe it’s his real name if it makes any kind of difference. Though he and I don’t agree on much at this time in keeping with his character which I believe to be honest, I’m going to go say it’s not fictitious. If you ask him a question he doesn’t like he’ll duck and run and throw more darts rather than answer. Good to see you back posting.
I guess congratulations are in order for all the nasty internet trolls that contributed to Hagerman’s decision, especially those that don’t even live here. You succeeded! Your relentless campaign has devastated both Hagerman and our Town as he is now the third Council Member you have driven from service and a replacement this time will take a great deal of trouble. I hope you are proud of yourselves!
@Mike–are you also implying that Cactus Thorns scared the Farmer’s Market out of Twentynine Palms? I think not. Your congratulations seem misguided and boastful. This Blog is only a Blog. Nothing more, nothing less.
Blaming a Blog, letter to the Editor or a paper cut on a little finger could be the excuse of anyone leaving the public arena if they wish to conceal the truth.
Nope. Blaming others instead of being accountable for one’s own actions is not acceptable in the real world.
My two cents to defend this Blog.
We must be really scary.
They should get some balls.
No comments have been made here in months. Why the decision now?
No issues to discuss, eh Mike?
Yucca is a better place absent Isaac on the city council. He was in over his head, was never prepared, and was a yes man for Nuaimi.
The consensus of most YV citizens is a great sigh of relief. Hawkin’s crystal ball is a bit cloudy if he is reading tea leaves for the triplets exit. The one common denominator is the arrival of Town Manager, Mark Nuaimi. Three have jumped ship under his command in rough, choppy economic waters. Two jumped for the big positions and bigger earnings as they recognized their opportunity. The third got seasick, never developing his sea legs while wading in a very small, shallow pond of inexperience.The la-la land of FaceBook is providing warm and fuzzy feelings as another small pond to lash out blaming others providing laughable material.
Patience is a virtue and if we wait a couple of weeks, the truth will surface. I do not believe anyone would quit because he or she was told the office of Mayor would not be in the future, do you?
Holding office is not a popularity contest and is very demanding of time and energy. Meetings to attend,ribbon cuttings,ceremonies and thick agendas to read and comprehend to contribute to the decision process. A demanding job and young children require even more time and energy.
Besides, politics is not for the faint of heart. Serving the public is honorable and the public scrutiny is part of the job.
Damn it all Margo, Where do you get this shit?
Your intentional misrepresentation of my post is exactly the kind of nasty deceitful crap I am talking about!!! You pull stuff out of your ass and attribute it to others.
I said NOTHING about Cactus Thorns. And I implied NOTHING respecting any Farmer’s Market.
I made it plain enough. Hear, read it again…
“I guess congratulations are in order for all the nasty internet trolls that contributed to Hagerman’s decision, especially those that don’t even live here. You succeeded! Your relentless campaign has devastated both Hagerman and our Town as he is now the third Council Member you have driven from service and a replacement this time will take a great deal of trouble. I hope you are proud of yourselves!”
As anyone can see, your claim that I am blaming some “Blog” for Hagerman’s resignation is not true and is merely your attempt to redirect the blame away from yourself.
Words on the internet are just that. Politics is not a place for the weak of heart. Being the son of a prominent citizen may help you get in office, but it won’t keep you there. Blaming the criticism is a cop out.
Mike wrote this to a female Christian community activist: “You pull stuff out of your ass.”
Mike, what sort of things do they teach you at the bible class you attend? Me thinks your vulgar personal attack is anti-Christian. Oh btw, you opened the door on your bible class, not me.
Mike, have a wonderful Sunday Mike (don’t forget to go to church).
Branson, did you see Mike at church?
BTW, the use of the word ass is subjective among many Christians. Though not long ago it would have been considered offensive. Regardless of wether it is appropriate or not, it would not be anti Christian, but among some it would be an unbiblical portrayal of proper christian conduct. Again, it depends on the church and the demographic region. In New York and back east it would not be uncommon to hear that terminology in church. Look no further than asinine |ˈasəˌnīn| to find the short form of this word.
adjective ORIGIN late 15th cent.: from Latin asininus, from asinus ‘ass.’
Sometimes it would be a fitting description of many on this site including Papa.:)
@Mike….hmmmm, let me see said the blind man. I guess these posts are written in Braille or we send up smoke signals to post stories and comments.
If NOT on Cactus Thorns, then pray tell where were you referring to? Yes, one could connect the barbs to THIS blog. If you were speaking of another media source..I missed it. Please excuse me for assumming you meant Cactus Thorns…I know no other.
As always, thank you for your comments and may you always be blessed. I know you do not hate me, nor do I hate you. I never will, I promise.
PS. Some key words from your comment- “internet trolls”….contributing to Hagerman’s decision.” Oh, and how do you know THAT? Care to cite your source for that quote…or is it an assumption?
“If NOT on Cactus Thorns, then pray tell where were you referring to?”
You can cut the feigned naiveté Margo. There is no “Where”! There is only “Who” and everyone knows you understand exactly what I said.
“Mike, what sort of things do they teach you at the bible class you attend?”
And Branson’s statement above is a timely example of how he pulls stuff out of HIS ass!
I do not attend a Bible class. While I did mentioned that I study the Bible, I have never, ever said I was attending any classes and Branson knows damn well I didn’t!! …but if he can make you believe such a claim then he can successfully establish his straw man argument. It’s the standard diversionary tactic used by nasty little trolls everywhere.
Hi again Mike.
I know you’re reading the Desert Star story about the Issac’s resignation.
Though Marge and I did not post a comment in the STAR when you foisted your mulish animosity in there, it made you look very silly. Every one needs an advocate, but you are not there for Issac. Have you anything constructive to say about Issac?
Your personal animosity in the STAR didn’t fly, and was buried by 99% of the people who were actually rejoicing. More specific to you, those comments in the STAR are far more colorful (that’s the charitable view) than anything posted in CT.
Don’t you think it’s best to move forward rather than dwell on how people perceive Issac’s resignation. Either that, or speak positively about Issac or his accomplishments — and why he was good for the town.
Can you do that?
Branson Hunter
July 22, 2012 at 6:00 pm
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Hi again Mike.
I know you’re reading the Desert Star story about the Issac’s resignation.
http://www.hidesertstar.com/news/article_9a7a6226-d20c-11e1-9517-0019bb2963f4.html?_dc=339059510966.7629
Though Marge and I did not post a comment in the STAR when you foisted your mulish animosity in there, it made you look very silly. Every one needs an advocate, but you are not there for Issac. Have you anything constructive to say about Issac?
Your personal animosity in the STAR didn’t fly, and was buried by 99% of the people who were actually rejoicing. More specific to you, those comments in the STAR are far more colorful (that’s the charitable view) than anything posted in CT.
Don’t you think it’s best to move forward rather than dwell on how people perceive Issac’s resignation. Either that, or speak positively about Issac or his accomplishments — and why he was good for the town.
Can you do that?
@Mike-You always seem grouchy and I don’t know why. If you were a baby, I would wonder if your diaper needed changing, you are teething or just hungry? At our age, it might even be constipation and we both may need to increase the dose of Metamucil. What do you think? I have some friends that are grumpy ol’ men and are dealing with aches & pains.
As for being constipated, I am not. Besides, as you can see with your crystal ball…I have no trouble pulling out “stuff.” (Your words, not mine. TMI)
Take a deep breath and try to shake it off, ok? It’s just too darn hot to debate the point. Okay, you win! Feel better?
Branson:
I purposely made no evaluation of Hagerman and I will not engage that argument. It is not at issue. My statement is a simple. It is a straight foreword observation of the consequences we pay for your thoughtless character assassinations, nothing more.
Here it is one more time…
- “I guess congratulations are in order for all the nasty internet trolls that contributed to Hagerman’s decision, especially those that don’t even live here. You succeeded! Your relentless campaign has devastated both Hagerman and our Town as he is now the third Council Member you have driven from service and a replacement this time will take a great deal of trouble. I hope you are proud of yourselves!” –
…continue to muddle my statement and I will continue to post it!
Mike Cuts and Paste….Cuts and Paste….Cuts and Paste (Hi-Desert Star & Cactus Thorns too! An equal opportunity Cutter & Paster!)
1.- “I guess congratulations are in order for all the nasty internet trolls that contributed to Hagerman’s decision, especially those that don’t even live here. You succeeded! Your relentless campaign has devastated both Hagerman and our Town as he is now the third Council Member you have driven from service and a replacement this time will take a great deal of trouble. I hope you are proud of yourselves!” –
2.- “I guess congratulations are in order for all the nasty internet trolls that contributed to Hagerman’s decision, especially those that don’t even live here. You succeeded! Your relentless campaign has devastated both Hagerman and our Town as he is now the third Council Member you have driven from service and a replacement this time will take a great deal of trouble. I hope you are proud of yourselves!” –
3.- “I guess congratulations are in order for all the nasty internet trolls that contributed to Hagerman’s decision, especially those that don’t even live here. You succeeded! Your relentless campaign has devastated both Hagerman and our Town as he is now the third Council Member you have driven from service and a replacement this time will take a great deal of trouble. I hope you are proud of yourselves!” –
Okay Mike! There you have three pasties for ya! Now I have a credit for three muddles?
Looks like you were outgunned on the other website Hi-Desert Star Blog on the Hagerman quitting story . Looks like you were the only one spitting with the wind blowing in your face.
Why don’t you cut and paste your same statement there as well? Hmmm, I don’t think Stacy Moore would allow that repetition….unless it’s a age thing with you. She is letting the fur fly on your BFF.
I am working offline on my first “Muddle” to leave a balance of two remaining. Stay tuned!
I guess you desire to keep this story running…..so be it!
Mike Hawkin’s Close-Up:
“I guess”-
Why are you guessing? Is that a hesitation on your part? What does guessing mean as your opening remark?
“congratulations are in order”
To congratulate, to acknowledge a special achievement, joyful event as: birth of a baby, promotion or graduation? What does congratulate mean in your statement towards internet Trolls?
“for all the nasty internet trolls that contributed to Hagerman’s decision”-
Did Hagerman tell you this was his deciding factor to quit? Are you Hagerman’s spokesman? Mr. Spokesman, please tell us any other contributing factors that you know about. We are all waiting for the top ten list….unless there are more than ten reasons.
“especially those that don’t even live here”-
How many have you counted that either live here or do not live here? Is that a requirement to comment or post? The reporters that broke the City of Bell scandal did not live there either…..ooops! Sorry, I drifted.
“You succeeded!”-
Is that the reason for your expression of congratulations?
“Your relentless campaign”-
Campaign? Please let us know which definition you are referring to….there are several in the dictionary. (Political campaign to elect a candidate is one.)
“has devastated both Hagerman and our Town”-
Again, are you the official spokesman? Everyone appears to be pretty relieved it is over. Did Hagerman speak to you of his devastation? Please share… By the way, are you also the official spokesman for “our Town?” (ps. I did not hear YV Mayor Rowe say he will be missed or that he was an important member of the Council.)
“as he is now the third Council Member you have driven from service”-
Two Councilmen secured well paying jobs, one for $128,000 and the other for $250,000. That is the reason for #1 and #2 resigning. They both admitted they could no longer “Skate” through the meetings and there were not enough hours in the day for both responsibilities. How did the internet trolls cause #1 & #2 to leave? Please explain.
“a replacement this time will take a great deal of trouble.”-
How is that? How do you say a “replacement this time” will take a great deal of trouble? Simple….call for a special election and three or four candidates will run for office, the voters will cast their votes.
Hagerman did not read his agendas, he missed important meetings, he did not attend his assigned meetings to represent the Town, he had no experience as an appointed or elected official, he had NO idea of the time required to be a Town Councilman, especially having never attended a Council meeting in over six years. Why don’t you run Mike? Hmmmm….Yucca Valley Councilman Mike Hawkins, sound good to you?
And lastly you write:
“I hope you are proud of yourselves!” –
What do you mean using the word “proud” as in the congratulatory sense? Probably not. Do you mean…”Mission Accomplished?” Trying to understand your closing seven words. Were the reporters of the Bell scandal proud of themselves when they were awarded the Pulitzer Prize for their investigative reporting? I think they were proud of themselves, do you?
In closing, I will use up my last two “Muddles” credit on the books with this statement:
Sometimes there needs to be adjustments, changes and replacements for the good. That’s life. Not afraid to pull the plug and try a new direction midstream is the mindset of the new generation. Like bumper cars in the night, they bump around in the dark trying to keep going in the direction of Life. Some choose to drive in the opposite direction for the thrills but eventually the futility of that decision sets in and they turn the steering wheel a hard 180 trying hard not to get their bumper car stuck in a corner. Some riders decide to park the bumper car and leave the Amusement Park…
When the ride is over, we all disembark at the same place where we started. We are born and then we die, it is what we do in between that counts…enjoy the ride!
There! I have used up my two muddles, right? (Dang! This could have been a new story to post)
Hi again Mike.
Actually I have written nothing that demeans Issac. Namely I’ve pointed out his record of elder abuse at the Hagerman Gardens. Here is but one comment made in the Desert Star that pretty much says says it all:
“Mike, while he was a councilman, Frank Luckino got the job as the CFO of the Hi Desert Water District. He had a HUGE conflict of interest that he finally recognized, so he quit as a YV councilman. Chad Mayes (after elected a third term YV TC) got a very high paying placement as County Supervisor Rutherford’s Chief of Staff. Three hours of commuting a day and a more than full time job requires him being out of town too much, so he quit as YV town councilman. Isaac Hagerman failed to maintain his agreements with wife, job and his business. After that, he started failing his Town Council assignments. He was downsized on the peripheral assignments of Town Council members and wasn’t making too many of the recent Town Council meetings, not that he was missed because he wasn’t properly prepared. Unlike Isaac, Lori Herbel was always well prepared and did her homework. In your referring to the WalMart SuperCenter proposal, she seemed to be the only town council member who read the EIR. The other four swore and approved that there were only four (yes 4) empty storefronts in all of Yucca Valley. There were far more other lies in the approved EIR and Lori was proven right by the courts. Lori Herbel’s only mistake was not having that Political Action Committee Joshua Springs behind her.” — By idavidgraficks
What a joke, the saga continues…. meanwhile, the Town and the citizens suffer…