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State tells Yucca Valley, “No more Septic Tanks!!”

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From the desert to the valleys, from the mountains to the sea, across all of Southern California the stories come in to our news desk.  While as a matter of fact studying this very subject,  we received the following news bulletin:


Septic Prohibitions Passed | Hi Desert Water District
Thursday, May 19, 2011

Yucca Valley, CA – The California Regional Water Quality Control Board adopted the Basin Plan Amendment to prohibit septic discharge in portions of Yucca Valley. The prohibition specifically affects properties in the phase 1 area in 2016, phase 2 in 2019 and phase 3 in 2022.
A copy of the septic prohibitions resolution is available in the Hi-Desert Water District lobby for the public to review.  You may also contact water district staff for information. Call (760) 861-8031, email wastewater@hdwd.com or visit www.hdwd.com.

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  1. Branson Hunter Branson Hunter says:

    The Town Manager has been waiting for this to go through. Thus, he’ll now call it an emergency. And much, much more. Look for a Sewer Bond Initiative Folks.Look for Mark Nauimi’s consultant — Bond Consultant Financial Adviser — to come to town and set this thing up.

    Mark… Sir you are going to screw this sewer project sales tax increase thing up big time.

  2. K. klein says:

    This isn’t a surprise. Many already knew that this is an issue about money. We have Luckino at HDWD and the Town Council, Muzik at HDWD and on the board that ISSued the ban. As well as who knows HOW many others connected to the money-making schemes. When will the people of Yucca Valley get of their asses and bring in the D.A.? Or- How about a recall? We could use a new town council AND HDWD Board of directors!

  3. John Q says:

    Mr. Klein:

    You really think there’s a conspiracy? Who is in on it? Yucca Valley Council and staff? HDWD and staff? What do you think their game plan is? The State? The County? What is their goal? Maybe the DA is in on it too?

    How would you solve the wastewater treatment plant problem? If you recall everybody, who would you put in their place?

    John Q

    • K. Klein says:

      John Q. Do I REALLY have to connect the dots for you? Follow the money trail!

      • John Q says:

        Geeee. Then I take it you believe there IS a conspiracy and everyone from the HDWD Staffer to the Whitehouse is in on it?

        I am having a really hard time following the money if you don’t tell me what the goal of these conspirators is?

        Sounds to me like you don’t believe the State when they say the water is contaminated and a wastewater treatment plant needs to be built to take care of the problem. Am I right? How would you solve the problem? Be specific.

        John Q

        • K. Klein says:

          Geeee. Did I hit a nerve, John Q.? I don’t believe it goes ALL the way to the white house- just our local government (and some of our local utilities). Do I trust them? Hell no! They’re politicians.

          The conspirators? Well John, what do YOU think is their goal?

          The state- nope, I don’t believe them either. They are using misleading and incomplete data to draw conclusions that put some of the “connected” people in a position to profit at OUR expense.

          IS there a problem with our water? Sure. Is it as bad as the state board says? I don’t believe it is.

          Do we NEED a sewer system to ‘Fix’ the problem? Nope. There ARE other ways to deal with it.

          Unfortunately, the only way out of this situation, now that the REGIONAL water board has placed the ban, is to fight it in court.

          Again, unfortunately, the people who are being affected the most don’t have the money to fight it.

          Now, when it comes to financing this monster, let the people who have the most to gain from a sewer system pay for it and let the rest of us try to get back to making a living.

          • John Q says:

            Mr. Klein:

            You state that a wastewater treatment plant isn’t needed; there are other ways to deal with the problem. What are those ways?

            JOhn Q

            • K. Klein says:

              Ya just don’t get it, do you? That discussion is done. The sewer system WILL go ahead, no matter HOW much anyone protests. I made my voice heard at the water board. It was ignored. There is no use debating what we COULD have done instead.

            • Dan OBrien Dan OBrien says:

              Always with the negative vibs.

              You got endless possibilities…. You got law suits, and recalls and referendums and you might even think about the possibility of a building moratorium until the political landscape changes in Sacramento.

              Like I said, There are still endless possibilities, Klein.

              It’s either you all figure it out or your town dies, simple as that.

              You Got to be willing to be in it for the long haul. You got to be willing to get in the trenches and fight. You got to be willing to get your hands dirty.

              Take it from someone who has fought the fight it is tough long and often you get your ass kicked but it is worth it in the end.

              I hate a quitter.

            • Larry Briggs Larry Briggs says:

              You could have the STATE take over the water district for health and safety reasons..

            • Branson Hunter Branson Hunter says:

              Larry, I know you are a busy man. And you probably have many important things in the fire. But I have to ask under what authority could the state take over? This is a serious question; I’m not spoofing.


            • Larry Briggs Larry Briggs says:

              Ben, I can’t quote you the specific page of the statute but the STATE took over a Water District in north central California when the citizens would not pass a bond issue to install a sewer system. It was the Water Quality Control Board. I’ll try to find the specifics but it really did happen.

  4. isaachagerman Isaachagerman says:

    Mr. Klein,
    Are suggesting the town council is in support if this unfunded mandate?

    • Stick to one Username says:

      Isaac Hagerman being spoon feed right wing one liners about “unfunded mandates”. Thats a code word for anything that the right wing disagrees with.

      Protecting the environment is everyones responsibility. Yucca Valley has been a dumping ground and cesspool for years, with everyone not paying a dime.

      The gig is up, its now time to pay for 30 years of neglect and incompetance.

    • K. Klein says:

      I’m not saying the WHOLE council agrees.

  5. isaachagerman Isaachagerman says:

    Maybe I missed the funded part.

  6. Dan OBrien Dan OBrien says:

    Larry says, You could have the STATE take over the water district for health and safety reasons..

    Well hell that would be a seed change in management for sure. Looking at the history of things run by the state, you might never have to worry about a sewer system.

    You see the possibilities really are endless.

  7. K. Klein says:

    I’m not quitting. I’m changing my focus. The problem here is that there doesn’t seem to be enough people in Yucca Valley that want to band together to make an impression. Have the state take over? Great idea! Would that be the same people that placed the ban on our tanks or another agency? If the Regional Board takes over, we’ll have to deal with Jose Angel. Oh yeah- Ed Musik will still be involved also- after all, he’s on the board that placed the ban. Anyway, I’m on-board if anyone wants to start collecting signatures.

    • John Q says:

      Mr. Klein:

      What are you collecting signatures for?

      John Q

      • K. Klein says:

        I like handwriting.

        • John Q says:

          Mr. Klein:

          I have been very patient with you and your rudeness until now.

          You said: “I’m on-board if anyone wants to start collecting signatures.” I simply asked what you were collecting the signatures for. If you want volunteers you need to explain to them the purpose for collecting the signatures and what your goal is.

          Sarcasm doesn’t go very far with either me or potential volunteers. If you continue in this way, you will be walking the streets of Yucca Valley all by yourself. Is that what you want?

          John Q

          • K. Klein says:

            Gee John Q., Thank you for your patience. You must be a saint. I haven’t noticed any rudeness or sarcasm on your part so I guess it must be me.

            As far as the “walking the streets alone” part- I already feel like I am. Besides, I never said I was collecting signatures.

  8. Larry Briggs Larry Briggs says:

    Look at swrcb.ca.gov They even have a colorful map showing the various regional control boards. Notice the word CONTROL.

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